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Lazimus_Prime Gnarly

Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 62 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: New live action G.I. Joe movie |
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There's going to be a new live action, big-budget movie based on the old G.I. Joe cartoon from the 80s. It'll be called G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra. It's set to be released on August 7, 2009. They already showed a trailer for it during this year's Superbowl.
Here's the official site for the movie:
http://www.gijoemovie.com/
And here's the imdb.com page for the movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1046173/
We had the Transformers movie from 2007, now this. What a way for 80s cartoons to make a comeback!
The new Joe movie is being directed by Stephen Sommers, who also directed the Mummy movies.
Here's some of the cast members:
General Hawk- Dennis Quaid
Duke- Channing Tatum
Scarlett- Rachel Nichols
Snake Eyes- Ray Park
Ripcord- Marlon Wayans
Cobra Commander- Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Destro- Christopher Eccleston
Baroness- Sienna Miller
Storm Shadow- Byung-hun Lee
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Lazimus_Prime Gnarly

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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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I remember enjoying the old G.I. Joe cartoon and toys. A story about a military unit trying to combat an evil, international terrorist organization is kind of appropriate right now, considering how we've had to deal with terrorism over the past decade.
A little while ago, I tried making a comparison between the old G.I. Joe cartoon and the current War on Terror. I saw Al-Qaeda as Cobra and Osama bin Laden as Cobra Commander. Ayman al-Zawahiri(the second-in-command of Al-Qaeda) was Destro. Maybe Mullah Mohammed Omar(the leader of the Taliban) could be Zartan. And the US government would be G.I. Joe, with George W. Bush as General Hawk. Condoleeza Rice could be Lady Jaye, I guess.
My brother didn't like the idea when I told it to him, though. It would mean that the US government were the good guys, which my brother was against, since he hates the Bush Administration!
Looking at it myself now, I don't care too much for it, either. It's a total insult to General Hawk to compare him in any way to a moron like Dubya! 
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MacGyver Cowabunga!

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TSHARKfan1 Tubular
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 150 Location: Fresno, calif
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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there is one thing that bothered me about the comic, and all of the cartoon series throughout the 80s and 90s, and that was the fact that the COBRA troops were ALL or almost completely, white. why was that? from what the dossiers on the action figures read, was that they were from VARIOUS countries, so what's the deal, and did that bother anyone else?
one other thing, the dossiers also said that the troopers were TRAINED in real MARTIAL ARTS, not the art of "moron-fu"
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ReComposed Gnarly

Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Skelweb
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have a lot of enthusiasm for the upcoming film! Ray Parks and Sienna Miller both look spot-on as Snake Eyes and the Baroness, and Cobra Commander's one of my favorite characters in anything, ever. I can't wait to see 'em on the big screen!_________________
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MacGyver Cowabunga!

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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I always got the impression (from what I recall of the card files anyway) that most all of Cobra were from European countries, thus the likelihood of having more white people than anything. For instance, the Dreadnoks are from England specifically. There were at least different nationalities mixed in there, if not exactly races. I don't know for sure- there's probably some African or Asian Cobra out there somewhere...
Oh well- I never really thought much of it as a kid and don't really think much about it now either. They are who they are.
On the other hand, there are some prominent black G.I. Joe members, as well as some Asians and other races (though I think a vast majority come from America). I'd have liked to have seen other characters included still- like say Crazylegs, Leatherneck, Shipwreck, Bazooka, Lady Jaye, Lifeline, Captain Grid-iron, Falcon, Jinx, and hey, while we're at it- Sgt. Slaughter!
But there's always room to introduce more Joes in potential sequels! 
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jbmb2000 Tubular
Joined: 25 Jun 2008 Posts: 248 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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I can't remember watching GI Joe (or Action Force as I believe it was called in R2 for some reason) as a kid but I did get a compliation DVD with 5 or 6 episodes a short time ago and there were 3 new Cobra guys being trained in and they were Asian - ok it's still white but it's still a different race.
Also I think for the bulk of them they were probably just the same template used to fill in the numbers like the Decepticons that transformed into a camera. It makes sence especially if you'r going to have alot of them - it's alot easier to draw loads of the same template then making each one different and there's not much point when they aren't really going to be playing much of a role.
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TSHARKfan1 Tubular
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 150 Location: Fresno, calif
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:59 am Post subject: |
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well, i did see ONE black guy in an episode(where dusty turned "traitor"), and he was in charge of latrine duties(go figure), and yet he was grateful and loyal to CC, even though he was given the "crappy" jobs, and in some circles, he would basically be called the typical "house negro". that to me, is NOT right, and those people at Sunbow need some kicking in various pants.
anyway, back to how the Cobra troops are portrayed as only being trained in the "art" or being slapped around, or "moron-fu". honestly, didn't it make ANYONE here mad or at least a little upset over how one-sided the hand-to-hand battles were?
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ReComposed Gnarly

Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Skelweb
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Actually, TSHARKfan1, the answer to both your questions can be summed up with one phrase: Broadcast Standards and Practices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standards_and_practices
There are no hard and fast rules as to what these guys will and will not allow, but two things it is very hard to slip past them are minority villains in major roles and repeated punches, especially to the face. That's why Serpentor had to sissy-slap Lt. Falcon in the movie, it's why He-Man punches the camera instead of Skeletor, it's why "The Dragon's Graveyard" almost never saw the light of day, and it's why Baxter Stockman (who's black in the original source material) was portrayed as white in the first TMNT cartoon. The sad thing is, their intentions are good: they don't want to show a child a violent act they can repeat, or cause them to associate a persecuted minority group with a villain they are supposed to dislike. However, as in the example you pointed out, their "corrections" can backfire and actually make a scene more insulting. IMO.
EDIT: For extra fun, check out the article entitled "BS&P notes received by various animators" in the "links" section at the bottom of the Wiki article. Some of those requests are just as entertaining as the cartoons they're regulating. I laugh every time I hear the "Sword to Blanket" story from She-Ra. XD_________________
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cspackler Radical

Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't wait to see snake eyes!
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TSHARKfan1 Tubular
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Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| there is another thing about the movie that makes me undecided about watching it. the good and bad guys seem to be wearing pretty much the same color of uniforms, black and black.
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MacGyver Cowabunga!

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ReComposed Gnarly

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Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, excepting the Baroness and Snake Eyes, the costumes- at least the ones I've seen- are kinda blah. I'm not complaining that Scarlett isn't wearing shiny spandex and bright yellow armor, just like in the comics; I get things that are cool in comics might look off in live action and need to be altered. I'm also glad they didn't load them with so much irrelevant clutter you can't tell what you're looking at, because that's been an unfortunate trend as of late. However, I think they went too far the other way. There's nothing to make the Joes' suits stand out from all the other black rubber suits out there in movie-land.
Masked Destro and Cobra Commander are being kept fairly discreet, though. Some of the toy shots leaked, but not enough to get a good idea of what they look like, so maybe I'll like them._________________
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TSHARKfan1 Tubular
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| what kind of happy medium, would you suggest they try, if you had the opportunity to do so?
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MacGyver Cowabunga!

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MacGyver Cowabunga!

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TSHARKfan1 Tubular
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| lol, no i mean what changes would you suggest, to try to satisfy both the viewers and writers/studio exec's?
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